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The Social Media Marketing Blog: Why Apple & Google Win - and Your Company Doesn't

  • Jamie Favreau · 2 months ago
    I agree. I don't like filling out boxes and more boxes for webinars. I know Scott Stratten and David Meerman Scott are of the less is more thoery. I am an over sharer and I am kind of passionate about sharing... Kind of weird I know. I don't like filling stuff out.
  • skribe · 2 months ago
    Hmmm. You should take a peek at the Ford Australia site where to get a brochure they want my first child's middle name =)
  • Steve Rubel · 2 months ago
    This was true until Google Wave. Still remains true for Apple.
  • scottmonty · 2 months ago
    Haven't had the chance to see Google Wave yet. Even though it's being released in Google's constant state of "beta," I wonder if usability feedback will help fine tune it.
  • Paul Johnston · 2 months ago
    I agree. Neat diagrams too. Any application is a solution to a problem. That means its value lies in its 'value in use' i.e. the benefits not the technical features. Having worked in the gaming industry for many years it was apparent from the early days that stress free intuitive navigation always scored!
  • tonyfaustino · 2 months ago
    Ah yes, the multiple benefits of simplicity and losing control (ala David Meerman Scott).

    Corporate America is still getting its head around Return on Exposure without collecting personal contact information. By my own admission, the metric for a successful web-based initiative in my own organization is still based on the number of leads collected and generated. However, I'm persisting in making the case that other content should be "totally free" such as podcasts and hopefully one day eBooks. My organization's thought leadership and influence can't propogate freely if the audience perceives there are "strings attached."

    BTW, well played in using the "Back of The Napkin" inspired visuals.
  • Matt Johnson · 2 months ago
    I think we should also add Mint.com's success to this list. Just look at their home page, registration page and all others.
  • no · 2 months ago
    what a load of goatshit, how in any way do the first two accomplish what the other one does
  • carol · 2 months ago
    I couldn't agree more! I find it soooo confusing when i face multiple choices when all I need is a simple search button. choices are only meant for undecided beings.
  • Jacob Godserv · 2 months ago
    Kind of ironic that this website looks the same as that snapshot.

    That snapshot has lots of forms about personal information, but if it's "all about usability" and the other successful snapshots are extremely simple, and the third is not, and this blog is not, well... :)
  • scottmonty · 2 months ago
    Last time I checked, Jake, this is a blog, not an app. It's a source of news & information - not unlike a media outlet. You could look at the New York Times website and make the same criticism. It's a false analogy.
  • Jacob Godserv · 2 months ago
    Perhaps. I'm honestly not sure whether simplicity should be applied only to certain topics (like you say) or if it ought to be applied everywhere.
  • Ross · 2 months ago
    Read "In Pursuit of Elegance: Why the Best Ideas Have Something Missing"
  • jeremy · 2 months ago
    This is all fine and dandy, until the simple interface is incapable of doing something critical that you need done.

    For example, I am a researcher, and I often use Google to (try and) find the oldest reference for various concepts. I am often constantly frustrated by Google's overly simplistic interface, and my by complete inability to use that interface to instruct Google as to what I need.

    Google has recently started exposing more advanced search options, but not only is it often very difficult to find those options, they don't even always do what you want. For example, you can now restrict your searches to particular date ranges. But within that date range, things are still sorted by most-recent, rather than least-recent. So unless you already know when the earliest version of a particular idea appears, the only way to get an answer to my query is to do something like this:

    (1) Set date range to y=2008
    (2) Restrict the range from Jan 1 of year "y" to Dec. 31st of year "y".
    (3) Run the query.
    (4) Look at the top 100 results, to make sure I've found almost everything
    (5) Subtract 1 from y, and goto (2)

    I usually end up having to comb through 2000 or so results.. 100 result per year, going back 20 years.

    It's painful, awkward, and extremely unusable. All because of the focus on "simplicity". It wastes my time.

    I would much rather have the "Your Company's App", esp. if it gave me the option to do a reverse chronological sort, because it would be a lot easier to use.
  • Jacob Godserv · 2 months ago
    Well, this is what I call "simple power". Google could have the very simple interface up front, and then, in Advanced Search, say, they could allow you more filters.

    In fact, they already do this, but they just don't provide the options you want. If they did provide the options you want in the Advanced Search area, would you be happy?
  • jeremy · 2 months ago
    I would be half happy. They need to not only give the user more control as I was saying (more options), but they need to help the user learn and discover what controls might actually be the most relevant, in the first place. In short, the biggest gains in relevance are going to come through user-interaction and feedback loops. However, this goes directly against the "one button that does everything for me" simple interface.

    So what I want from Google is probably never going to happen.
  • Designer Handbags · 2 months ago
    Yes I agree with you.
  • Keith Burtis · 2 months ago
    This is great Scott! So sweftly dealt with and to the point!
  • geechee_girl · 2 months ago
    Love this! Found via @cspenn
  • facebookappdeveloper · 2 months ago
    I really like the way you differentiate between Apple, Google and Companies. Really amazing :)
  • David Fisher · 2 months ago
    Yep... always loved minimalism... less is more... nuf said
  • Home Business Leads · 2 months ago
    Definitely agree with this. Most people get discouraged when faced with something that looks complicated.
  • tessacarroll · 2 months ago
    Once again, simplicity wins. The more little boxes I have to fill out, the less I actually want to know about something.

    As marketers, we should look at our own company's info requests and adjust accordingly. If you hate filling out a billion little boxes simply to get a little info, what are the odds that your customers do too? We shouldn't subject our customers to things we ourselves hate doing!

    Tessa Carroll
    VBP OutSourcing
    www.blogs.vbpoutsourcing.com
  • jeremy · 2 months ago
    "If you hate filling out a billion little boxes simply to get a little info, what are the odds that your customers do too?"

    Sure, if the customer's only goal is to get a LITTLE info, then yes, keep the interface nice and simple.

    But as I said above, the opposite also hold true: If you the customer are trying to get a LOT of info, or really important info, or really detailed info, or compare and contrast large sets of complicated info, then a "one button" interface actually works against you, and makes your task even more difficult than it otherwise would have been. In those latter situations, you the customer actually want a billion little boxes, so that you can be very specific on what it is you need.

    One really has to understand the end goal, here. "Make it simple" is but one factor, and not always the most important factor. Not everything needs or should turn into this Apple/Google/McDonalds interface, where customer interaction is nothing more than choosing Happy Meal #1, #2, or #3. That doesn't always work.
  • Bob Carpenter · 2 months ago
    Hmm, "Your Company's App" looks suspiciously like Google Checkout.
  • scottmonty · 2 months ago
    That's why the illustration said "a" Google product, not all Google products. :)
  • Laurel Papworth · 2 months ago
    My fave signup is Moof, it's simple English on the main page...
    "My name is ___ but I'd like my username to be ___" type stuff.
    My profile link is to a post I wrote called "the best signup on a website ever" - though I do accept Usability might be a factor.

    PS I hate Disqus it hijacks our comments back to their profile pages... Just sayin'.
  • scottmonty · 2 months ago
    Then why not use Facebook Connect or Twitter, two comment options that I also offer on my blog?
  • the1drewharris · 2 months ago
    Simple software is better, very good article.
  • UrbaneWay · 2 months ago
    Scott, Hello
    This so reminds me of the crazy "Guest Cards" that the apartment industry just will not let go of. We ask a zillion questions, then ask the same questions when we finally see the prospect. Pretty silly,
  • ydring · 2 months ago
    True, true
  • Dining Room Furniture · 2 months ago
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  • Joakim Kempff · 2 months ago
    I totally don't agree. But I'm glad that all you folks do. That will make it easier for me to make my company successful.

    BR Joakim
  • Jon Thomas · 1 month ago
    Great post! I'm a presentation designer and when I speak to audiences about effective presentation design, I often use a slide with Yahoo's search interface and then another with Google's search interface.

    The same simplicity that is so effective with interface design is as effective with presentation design. If more people designd their presentations with this in mind, as opposed to dumping mounds of information on each slide, their ideas would stick instead of bore.
  • Santiago Merea · 1 month ago
    Awesome!
    (Don't need to say more... less is more)
    Santiago
    www.onlinecouples.com
  • Adam Zand · 1 month ago
    Given your example, it helps to set up de facto monopolies too
  • scottmonty · 1 month ago
    How are those monopolies, Adam? Apple has maybe a 19% penetration and
    over 250 million people visit the homepage of Yahoo every day.
  • phil_markwick · 1 month ago
    this reminded me of the funny macbook wheel skit by the Onion.
    i can't paste the url here.. just search 'macbook wheel' in YouTube.

    The fact is that any API is as complex as it needs to be, the moment a strange company want a lot of information i know that things are to complex for me.

    I remember one time a huge form poped up, i wrote my phone number and something like 'I'm not paid to fill in your CRM'

    i yearn for the simplicity of my old Ford (UK) Orion... sigh*
  • braincement · 4 weeks ago
    Love the simplicity of the visual. Must not have used PowerPoint and I did not see the word paradigm, so my life is now complete
  • jlevine · 1 week ago
    You're half right. Design simplicity is surely important, and the two brands you mention generally do a good job of that.

    But not always, and as much of a fan I am of both of them, they both do plenty wrong. The difference is that they have both learned how to build world-class brands. That comes from product, sure, but it also comes from listening to consumers, engaging them, and clearly communicating value. Most companies fail at this at least as violently as they fail at making elegantly design products, and they both hurt.

    We're a lot more forgiving of Google's 40-odd products that don't really work because we believe in the brand.
  • millipo15 · 4 days ago
    I want to express my admiration of your writing skill and ability to make reader to read the while thing to the end

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